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more than just Lansing. But is that the kids are running rampant, rampant. They, no respect, you know, they're carrying guns and knives, and it's the biggest problem that we're having on the buses. It's not the regular riders. It's when there's a fight breakout on the bus and everything. It's these kids. So, you know, I don't know what the answer is by any means. But we would have at that age, you know, in the teenage years, they would have took us to jail and made our parents come and get us. The cops said their hands are tied. And we'll go, what do you mean your hands are tied? You know, you know, we got people selling crack and smoking crack, and we catch them doing it right on our buses.

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