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Ray, Casey Tew, PKEG. He won W-I-N. This is KC2, PKG. You know, I mean, all of those rules are in there because people could not control themselves. And, you know, and we're beating a shit out of their kids. So you end up talking to a social worker or something like that about it. But I'll tell you that. I figured out pretty early on that after about the age of two, physical force is very negative. It does not work. You can give somebody a tap on the butt when they were one or two to remind them to get their attention. But after that, there's no telling what they're thinking. You know, and so we switched to a much more, you know, we'd have a long talk. We would have, you know, a session of reasoning and thinking about what they're thinking.

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