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Okay, well you might want to try Echo Link then. If you're familiar with all of that other stuff, you might want to try Echo Link just download it and install it on your smartphone. And once you get registered, if you're not already, you'll need to verify your call sign at echolink.org if you're not registered. But if you want to get involved with that, it's only a matter of putting it on your phone and you're off to the racist kind of thing there. You'll be able to connect into this system and many more around the world in crystal clear. Well, some people call it digital. It's not really digital. It's analog with an internet link on it. But so technically it's still analog. But that's an option for you. Go ahead.