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I think they're both, I was going to say Thursday nights, but that's on a ResChat. That's an Indian Native American conference, Friday night, Saturday night, or evening, five o'clock about, so about eight o'clock their time, seven o'clock their time. They don't talk politics. I get over there. I've been over here politics. So yeah, they tend to lean one way, but they don't get political on those nets. Talk about a lot of other stuff, except that. As far as the rest, I don't know. I haven't, well, you know, they've known me forever. But it's just, and I know,
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