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on broadcastify, but I told him, I said, just give your license. And he, over the years of knowing him popping on the air, he just, it's not that he doesn't have a desire. I just don't know if he's got some type of ability that reading ability or something is there that he strays away from trying to get a license. So, but he's definitely got the radio bug. You could tell when somebody's got the radio bug when they're, you know, on so many different platforms to try to listen or talk. But he's, I said, that's the only way you really going to listen to DMR. And I told him, I said, go open up Elko Lane, go open up a whole new world for you, but he hasn't done it and I'm known him for.