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And we never got any opportunity to ask him. So if anybody gets on one of those nets on units or the 11 catch server, ask him, why he doesn't want to talk about it, or do we do something or what? I mean, he went through a life-changing event there. I don't know how his dad is now, but his mom had died. So, you know, but the fact that he's, he's calling nets over there, that's surprising. That's very surprising. Jackie, via one UKZ. This is one that he does once a week over there, I think. Pretty sure that he's still doing it. So, I don't know, man. I don't get it. A lot of people abandon due drop-in for that system. And it was political. It's exactly what it was. It was political. None of them wanted to hear a different view than their own. And over there, they don't...