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If you push him hard, he just gets his back up and he won't do anything at all. He might even stop talking to you. And that's a drag. So we go easy. We try to control him along and negotiate how we're moving forward. Because he's still fairly young and he really makes terrible, terrible decisions. He does. But we let him reap the rewards of those decisions a little bit and then we can step in later and say, yeah, maybe we need to do something else. So we will go to the doctor today. I hope and that family dinner tonight. So it'll be fun. With that, I hand it back to you Russell KB nine and this is Casey to P kg.