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and they work very good like I'm taking one with me so but I've had one often on all day today so you got two of one of them's always in the freezer so yeah I've been using them a lot and yeah I definitely hope them to be coming keep everything now W7 JSM oh that's great I'm quite he's got the one already in the f-3 or 2 he's someone that you're wearing warms up a bit which eventually will all right we'll take care John have a great afternoon F1 German on the old guitar and hey we'll talk to you soon 105 p.m. I'm Jack K. I7 R mute for the noon and that here on the PSRG repeater in Seattle Washington if you'd like to join us come ahead call sign and name