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participating in western states either as a runner or as a volunteer on the comms. My first year was 1993 so this is year 33 that I've been involved with the event and yeah I've had a number of different roles but the radio team is kind of where I've settled for this this current period but it's been a been a role enjoyable journey over the years. Wow 33 years of involvement with the western states endurance run anybody out there wondering what this is about check out western states endurance run you can just google that it is a 100 mile run over the top of the Sierra mountains and kin comes into this as a runner and very involved with the western states for many years thank you for volunteering kin and yeah.