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Okay, yeah, in fact during the beginning of the net here I was talking with the IT person up there because we were offline until this morning and I just exchanged a text with him and he was back online out there about seven minutes ago. So you may want to just contact their IT guy Justin and it might just be something that he needs to do on his side because we just came back seven minutes ago. Thanks for that. Yeah, I'm actually running up to Auburn to run a quick errand so I have all my gear with me so I'll do a quick win link check from Auburn and if it works then it works. Thanks for that information. Absolutely and I know you're going to be working up at I believe the Robison Flat for the event this weekend. How many years have you been?