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fishing around and you can get onto a channel and spend 10 minutes trying to raise somebody then leave for another channel and then just right after you left someone else comes on that channel looking for somebody and I haven't looked so there might be some places like that where that you know that you can go to see if there's anybody else on fusion or on DMR or something like that but if you're just getting new into it it's overwhelming and without results a lot of times so I think it's a it's an issue if it were the reasons why I haven't you know done a lot on those systems because I just don't know where to go I mean I have to know somebody and say okay hey where do you go