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the basement specifically to that one is to build this vertical in the backyard and so that's necessary. And I mean the the you know the coax ran a lot shorter and now I don't use that a vertical anywhere I use it up there but it is yeah I guess nice to be you know having the ground just a few feet outside the back of the shack I have maybe three or four foot of copper wire to my to six foot buried poles there and you know just outside the back of my radio here and yeah that works pretty good I guess you know when I was in the second floor I would and the little screw on the back of the microphone would buzz my hand and actually burn my hand again RF not a burn from it but you know it makes you drop the mic because all that RF is going back into the getting back into the shack as I was just literally running a running a long wire straight out of the back of the tuner without any coax in that case.