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September, I think. Chip, KM6MDF, would be the one that would know that because he usually spearheads that one. So it's called the Sarah Enduro. AI, six U.S. Hey, go ahead, Brian. Yes, got Sarah Enduro this year, went under leadership change. And so the previous group that was putting that on has kind of retired. And so they had reached out to Chip, indicating that they had given information about the radio support to the new folks, and they were not sure if the new folks were going to be running an event or not. So it seems like Old Guard is retiring. Old Guard is forming.