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actually can think about abstract concepts that aren't part of the physical, you know, their present physical stimuli, right? Or can they endlessly embed clauses, right? I know what you're saying, and I've got a dog. I would argue that my dog is very intelligent, Ken, neck control, that he's got a dog. But the problem is, once you look at that, once you look at the heuristics on a high level, it becomes difficult to quantify that level of complexity, especially when we don't have a base marker to identify that language. If something came out in the future and we could say, oh, yeah, it looks like they're discussing an abstract concept, then you can now make an argument. But at this point in time, what the scientists are basically saying is that they haven't measured anything, and there's no way to immediately quantify it.

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