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that will do single side band below six meters or above six meters if you're talking about frequency. So just make sure you have that kind of radio and yeah it's definitely doable and I believe Robert set up his radio in such a way where he and where Cammy was able to make a two meter FT8 contact last week. I could be wrong about that but that's what I believe I heard KG seven ODB. All right Michael did you get that info? Yeah we're all good thanks Kirk and thanks Dean. Yeah there's kind of a lot of frequency and I use I've used WSJ. The one you talked about I use that in the desert photo so I'll make a note of that of that frequency. Well yeah that's surprising me so that's that's really