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Yeah, I bought a couple of foot and a half long big heavy duty screwdrivers. A Phillips head and a flat blade. And I even used a mallet. I don't want to pound too hard into that. I don't want to break anything. And I don't have, it just didn't work. That rock is wedged in there. And I might have to disassemble the grate that covers it. There's space in the grate to insert these screwdrivers and do a little maneuvering around. But I might need to remove the grate which involves, oh, and another thing, mosquitoes. I'm working outside underneath the Sea Dew which is on a trailer. And you know, you're, you don't have to.