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antenna and this friend had sold me a cam 88 that he was using and this guy wanted it. So I didn't have a lot of money in those days so I sold it. And then in the 70s it seemed like everybody worked at CV Radio so I got back into it again and then I guess I got out of it. I was at a garage sale and this guy's father passed away and he had all his ham gear so I traded him for that and then I went ahead and got my license. I thought that was the early 90s. I got every 192 so I've been in it about 35 years now I guess. Alright I can. KB7PVW back to that. Yeah the big shocker wasn't so much ham, not amateurs buying ham.