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You need to go where you know you can hit the repeaters Solidly because that's if you got an HD You're not going to talk simplex very far So you want to make sure that you're able to hit the repeater that you want to hit and And then you're good to go I could blank it that we got the linking system repeater here in Michigan and From the house here on a half a watt I can hit linking system and blanket Just bought all of Michigan At least the lower peninsula So I wouldn't go too far But if you gave me an HF rig the skies the limit I don't care for secure p-rig that really run five watts You throw in antenna up and you're good to go You know when we ran sky warring We we thought you know we planned