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Those of us and you know before my blind shell and laptop and all the rest of it I got to throw myself in that bunch while I would you know I almost Wanted the simplest way, you know to get on the air so I don't fault anyone who who wants to try, you know the most simplistic way You know to just basically I want to hook something up and not only that But also have a situation where if there's where when you want someone to talk to they're there for you to talk to Okay, because that's not the case with like even like when I use echoing like I'm doing now and all stars You have to kind of you have to fish around you have to make appointments and all the rest of it, right? so sometimes you'll get those that like They don't want to they don't want to Fuss through all that they just want action now. So it kind of handles and it squashes that so