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at the same time, I don't know if you can hear it or not, but there is all-star as well if you have any access to all-star. I don't know how much delay there is, but there is also a broadcastify stream that you can get from dodropin.info where there is a little bit of a delay, so if you speak into the Echoline conference, you should be able to hear it on the broadcastify. Go ahead. Okay, I can understand the conference, but right now you and I are talking, I would expect to hear the same conversation on the Echoline version of dodropin, but maybe that's not the case. It's not like one unified destination.