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KCA-8FQV from GW8XZN. I was looking at the website, and I couldn't really, I don't know, I was using the phone, and of course using the phone a little harder to catch everything. But then I was listening to it, because I was at the company last night, so I had the earbud done, I was listening to it for a while, and it was, though I thought it was something that was testic. And I've seen a number of them, the number of the guys have talked about that over the years, and that, you know, I remember there was the, uh, what the internet came out with that, uh, where you were making them little robot, when I went on robot, but it was, um, they were sold through Radio Shack, a lot of radio shacks, you know, they were selling,