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And a few other apps back then, we were trying different stuff, but the original 851 channels. Now, some of them, when you look at them now, they were created in 2016, 2017, and even 2018. But the concept of it, the very first channels, it will be 12 years. And I've seen a lot of groups come and go in those 12 years. So that was what I was going to mention to you. But the other thing, you did jar my memory on something. You know the V-Ham app, the platform that was developed by TocPod engineers. And I was involved with that very heavily there from the beginning. They were moving towards making just a very small, small segment of those virtual frequencies. Yes, it's all virtual. It's all on the internet, VoIP, no RF. But those virtual frequencies that are between 144.0 and 148.0.

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