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those 12 years. So that was what I was going to mention to you. But the other thing, you did jar my memory on something. You know the V-ham app, the platform that was developed by TocPod engineers, and I was involved with that very heavily there from the beginning. They were moving towards making just a very small, small segment of those virtual frequencies. Yes, it's all virtual. It's all on the Internet, VoIP, no RF. But those virtual frequencies that are between 144.0 and 148.0, basically the 2 meter band here. Your 2 meter band smaller over there, isn't it? 144 to 146. But anyway, the equivalent of the 2 meter VHF amateur band in the US is going to require a listen on the TocPod platform. I know some people frowned on that at first. They were kind of against it. But it still leaves a