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become at least a Red Cross person and I eventually became an EMT and volunteered in all sorts of different capacities but was a road ambulance, an ambulance team in the Cab scale mountains and we worked our little tails off for being people that were just volunteering, so Gee, was such a great great education besides the job that I had that I got paid for and but it was well worth it and I just moved on from that capacity being with companies and volunteering and companies for