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hosting or our co-charing the field day event for our location and it's a lot of fun and you know put up antennas and see what you could do with them and we have all sorts of antennas I mean that's kind of the fun of it too just play with the antennas while you're camping and that's not it I mean I just go doesn't have to be RVR in it that just excuse to go I don't need much so back to neck control okay 4H10 this is KI6 HOB okay Mark I'm kind of a same opinion and I'm going to a lot of rallies that we're not RVR in the rally so so I really when we first got RVing well when we first went full-time we were already RV