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and I was showing them just sitting at his kitchen table on a 5 watt ht we could pull up the M dark revere on Mount Diablo with no problem at all. Yeah the W6C attribute has great coverage. I know if you look at there and from my place in Discovery Bay I can actually see the antenna of I had good and good enough eyes but that had great coverage all through the Bay Area and into the Valley. So Dan I guess he hasn't been on yet this morning but if I be on a little bit later I know they're going to head to Alamo Bay Area. Today he has been in family and I told him he's applying go ahead and take your Ht and just send me a text message when you want to.