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self-provider like Verizon or whatever and say I need a data only sim and they're going to charge you like probably 30 bucks a month for that right and it's not going to be act it's not going to be unlimited it's not going to be able to use all the networks like this service can so it's it kind of bottles a lot of different things into one and at a relatively good price I mean it's got radios that are as cheap as I think eighty nine dollars and they go up to like if you wanted like a mobile type rig for your vehicle you know what an external antenna and a speaker mic and all that you can get that too you know if you got an RV and you want like a mobile type radio in there you can have that kind of radio or you can have a handheld or you can have one that's got VHF and UHF built in if you want that he's coming out with one with DMR built in and you know just a whole bunch other cool stuff this is a growing company and it's ever expanding into a lot of different avenues so I found it incredibly exciting especially when I read the website as like interfaces easily with echo link and all staring out