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Well, I downloaded the app, Echo Link on my phone. I'm using a Samsung Galaxy S25FE. And since I can't operate our radio here, it's too much red tape involved with the Vietnamese government to try to set up a ham station here. It's just the ham operators are feeling far between here. But I just started playing around with the app, and I just clicked on conferences. And I just started, I've heard people out here before. And I didn't really know what the net was about. But that's how I found you. Just buy your phone.