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appreciate you guys giving me this this information so thanks again and back to the next go for one delta candle vista returning Brian well we do say that if you would log on to one of our nets in the week you turn the family which is got got a quite a big area I mean I had regular contact for a while with the station from South Africa I've talked to New Zealand and Australia India Japan although I've only had occasional glimpses of Japan but other controllers have talked regularly to them and I mentioned South Africa