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KB7PVW, that's pretty exciting stuff, man, and getting caught on top of the ladder when they suddenly start moving on you. That is scary. That's happened to me. I used to work on ladders for about a year. That's all I did was climb, go up and down ladders, and set lights up and that kind of stuff. I got very good on ladders, but I had my share of close calls as well. It's usually better just to drop. When the ladder looks out, it's better just to drop than try and do anything else. But it's real hard not to reach out and grab things. There you go. Well, Don, VE3, OBL. He's a new player here and it's great to have him, but he has moved on to greener pastures. He may be back. He said he's going to be back. That'll be good. We will give Ralph one more try on this question. Ralph. Uh-huh.