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about what I was talking about that book. Let's see. Oh, yes. And Robert will be glad to know that the character I built with him as the model is alive and well and doing interesting things to make the lives of the poor pilots who are going to be stuck with one ship forever better. I mean, think of the problem. You've got to make somebody content with that one ship and content to live there and sometimes to be confined there. And so you've got to figure out exactly what they want in a way of internal fitting. So he is a ship-sitter that does that as part of the teams that do those matches between star masters and ships. So that's cool. It was really fun to hear Robert talk about his work and fun to hear Cami talk about her stuff too.