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is only one what one five and the antennas for that would be mighty mighty long to you know and and you do have to apply for a permit to operate those I do have that permit by the way so let me see what the comment is I think it's Chris V3 or WJ is that you Chris for the comment yeah I was just gonna suggest you use your formula to figure out how long a halfway dipole is for any of those bands and you'll you'll figure out why they're not used as much because the antennas are very big yes absolutely yeah those antennas are or are extremely extremely long so I mean just a 160 meter four-way bandana out here's 567 feet long that I have a full wave and that's suckers 500