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So in addition to what Mike was just talking about, he can also check with Adrian, the seven November Zulu, their group over there in Vancouver has done a bunch of ones with different things. So I bet Adrian would know the exact answer to that. That's it for me, info for UBC. Alrighty, thank you Scott. And Emile, did you get the Adrian's call sign? Yeah, you bet Adrian and I are working this together. Actually, he's the one that's programming my technical data there. But I'll just wonder what Ben would be more effective. That was the question. No, Adrian should be back in a month or so.