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in the Sacramento Valley, but you get up here in the foothills and 10 watts in a subpar antenna, just you might have one or two repeaters that you can hit somewhat reliably. But yeah, unfortunately we're in some terrain around here that requires a little bit more gain and a little better antennas and a little more power a lot of the times. But yeah, I have not seen one of those. I recall a great conversation though about a guy complaining. This was actually a review on Amazon that the magnetic mount of his mag mount, Antana Bay City bot was subpar magnets because it wouldn't stick to the cab of his Ford F-150. Aluminum truck.