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in a determinate or indeterminate length with a one-to-one at the feed point and your choice OCOX. It seems like these companies that are making wire antennas with a ballon are pirates, say are. Well, yes, it's a very simple design. I believe it's a four-to-one ballon, actually, on most horizontal loops, at least in my experience. That's how I build them. And I believe that's how they built them. It might be a 9-to-1. I really don't know. What made it very attractive to me is that I don't know if you've ever sat down. I know for a fact you've sat down and measured out hundreds of feet of wire before. And that is quite a tedious process, especially when you get it down to the final tuning stages like, oh gosh, I'm off by this much.