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as the HF auto tuner so they look absolutely beautiful stacked together. And I haven't heard from him since. He's been on HF and we've lost that voice. That's a lot of fun. Also I have all of the stuff to build a horizontal loop. I have the bow and the wire and everything. And I was going to go out and start measuring and start hanging wire over at Larry's place to put up a loop for him. I stumbled across a pre-built ready to go thing from Ulti-Back, same company that made that antenna that doesn't work that worked so well. I ran across to kit from them so I'm like oh that's much easier. So the lazy side of me stood up and said yeah I would get that. So it'll be here Friday and Larry and I will start on the first few cool days that we find one. We'll start the installation of his new loop out there so we'll have some fun with that. Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that a horizontal loop was just a loop.