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go underneath and find it, pull it out, get the item, and then you know put it put it back away. Right now my current student has just enough stuff that it's convenient to keep it on the bed so I've got a lot of my stuff underneath the bunk, unsorted out. But that way I don't have to keep pulling stuff off the top bunk and putting it on the driver's seat when I want to go to bed or something like that. So but I need to make sure there's space underneath the bunk so that when I get a student that has a suitcase or you know enough other things that they have some space.