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writing them down and then looking at his log sheet that he's doing just a little notebook and he's just writing them down and sometimes I'll look to see the call signs that he's writing down and I'm like, yeah, yes, I copy that, yay. And then there's a couple and I forget their names, Becky. Her name is Becky and his name is, what's this? I'm just trying to, they're the hand radio duo. They're a married couple that they go out and do pod activations with their little dog. Walk down these, you know, like really easy trails through the woods and set up a little table. They kind of sit there and they've got the copy mug and sometimes she'll be activating and he'll be logging and or they reverse it and they've got the little dog and they, I think they call their dog, Poda Dog.