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just on a laptop or a cell phone which is, I think it's on the Android though and some others. It's out there and I actually used it and it works. Works pretty darn good. I heard of mom and Ed tonight. So we have called box DMR. So V-O-X-DMR. How do you spell DMR? Anyway, back to that. Thanks for doing as always AV-6MB. Jeff, was that box as a container or box as in voice operated transmitter? Box as voice operated transmitter or very old interface. Okay, that's what I thought. At first I was hearing it sounded like box to me but I thought