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exercise and frustration for sure is that there is the technique of you put it in burst mode and then you rock back and forth ever so slightly because with the lens that I have it's a one to one for image size on the sensor so to give an idea like I was taking a picture of one of those little tiny flies that hangs out on flowers sometimes like teensy times you will think it's head was in focus and it's antenna was not or its wings were not so I got about a one millimeter twice of in focus so yeah it could be a little exciting but y'all have to look into some of the two sounds interesting anyways yeah back to you case of an NIL alright have fun experimenting yeah of course now this is when I was using the extension to this is back in the film day film yeah so remember that so yeah so