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many a storm and we had those chairs for 20 years up there until we had to sew our chair of the thing was really painful couldn't keep it but the chairs were kept but they've they've needed rebuilding you know I mean some of the legs were rotten and the cross braces and one of them we had the I'd used some inexpensive plywood for the where you were you sit down on it and they had delaminated so that had to be replaced but then and Donna said well you gotta paint them when you're all done rebuilding and so I got one more to paint got some leftover really