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Okay. That transmission was very confusing Ralph, I'll be honest with you because I'm not sure. You said V-ham a bunch of times and you also said Hamlink a bunch of times. So I'm not sure if you were talking about Hamlink some at a time and V-ham some at the rest of the time or were you given information about Hamlink or V-ham. Go ahead. Sorry, I just misspoke myself. V-ham, no Hamlink's working phenomenal. So there ain't an issue with Hamlink at all. V-ham in the very beginning it sucked and it's gotten a lot better and you'll see like 25 or so 22 to 25 people. It was growing but people got frustrated because they'd go over there and nobody would talk. So at one point in time there was like 30 to 40.