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radio channels like 145, 620, and all the national channels and things like that, but it's not really RF, it's just the numbers to use that. But the issue I'm having is most of these radios come with the PTT app and then I try to download the V-ham and then you have the Pacling radios, the Toxone radios, and there's a couple other ones and I'm just trying to figure out I can never seem to get on any of those and I'm just wondering are they all using the same channels or networks? I mean can you talk from one radio to another or like you know how EchoLink has all these talk groups, can you get on all the same talk groups or I'm just really confused on it, maybe you can throw me some info back to you Daryl.