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It's at the many over time and it was unfortunate that years ago to be able to get the QSL card died at 5,000 and so I still got probably about 500 of them but I found that over time that the QSL cards are becoming less and less a paper one so I still like the paper one and so you know that's just my preference I get a few through EQQS open. I'm very many anymore and then I asked over hands well you know the amount of QSL cards they sent out you know they get maybe 20% of back people return them as a paper copy but I've got to give you know you can see on my QRZ site my QSL cards from different things paper ones and that was from the space station and when I was out working on a job out in the Aleutian Islands out there you see that QSL card stuff but I still like the paper ones in a lot of ways because I can I can post them up on my board in there and I can look back and look at them and I even have one from the space shuttle so