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them some money ahead of time so they can get things to you. But things that are not entirely clear to me is what they consider to be an appropriate starting balance for someone just starting, what they mean to payment they tend to accept for incoming and also just if they let a relative newcomer know before they establish the balance, like hey we've got your first one, it's time to establish your balance if they're known to do any of that outreach or to just kind of have to pre-fund them and hope your first one's come eventually. VA4MHA back to that. Yeah, VA4MHA, this is V2, Victor Brubble. Yeah, just like you said, some of the QSL manager, QSL Bureau, they just send you your QSL card that they received under your call sign, they just want to prepate envelopes so that they can put some in it and they'll let you know when they're...