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between repeaters and the only QSO that I log here in my shack is those that I made on HF-Bend which are ways to reflect to the ionosphere and ground and there is some magic in there I think it is and I still believe even though after a couple of decades being a hacktive on HF-Bend so I do log them I actually use one of the many available software called HRD which gives me also the DX cluster information I clicked on whatever DX I want to work with and the radio goes on the on the right frequency and logs the QSO and everything so thank you very much for checking in do we have any more station that would like to check in anywhere in the eastern Canada VE4 and up to the west coast you're welcome to check in now VE2 Victor Brubble this is the TransCanada Net you