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And some areas in the city where I live, it's very important for people to have schedules and meetings, otherwise the air is just totally dead. So even if it's kind of like an exercise, they'll do it just to kind of give it a purpose. And also I like to how on two meters here people will sometimes emphasize simplex as well. So they like to try their antennas or try their range that way. And that's good. I mean, that's what they would already do anyways, but then when they're introduced to repeaters, I've got the game changer. And eventually you realize, well, once you're using it,