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a little bit for her and my wife just went a couple times but she didn't she didn't um was just much for her so we didn't do the chance to go that often but we always tried to go to the like I said the college highly games every year and the other fairs the renaissance and the I don't know the Shakespeare fair but um that's it I'm gonna get back to work here back to it well now the trick with the haystacks kind of sounds like something they do at a place I know of called uh Black Creek Pine or Village and that's outside of Toronto so how funny yeah it's almost comparable in that way yeah another fun place to go was the Simco Fair we used to go when we were at school I don't