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There was also, when I was researching all this, there were a couple of other papers that came across. And one of the theories that a psychologist had was that in the case of fight or flight development, and you're right, right? Because humans about 2.8 million years, but other ancestors, 7 million years on the time left. So one of the other things that they were considering was the fact that it was predatory actions. So in these liminal spaces, or what we would define as a liminal space, in nature where they occur, so let's say a cave or something else, there's always, or there would have been a risk of predators and predatory action, right? And it's akin to, let's say you're a hunter, right? And I'm sure anybody out there has gone hunting. You know, the forest is one way and the day. It's a different world at night. In the day, you're not really scared. It's because you can see, you can see what's around you. There's birds.