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He took these liminal spaces essentially. He did various phobias combined everything together. It was influenced by COVID-19 because he was sitting around. So he worked on this YouTube series. And eventually he decided to make a movie. He had enough back funding for it or presale for it. And the way he went and it's worked out for him. So it's an incredible story of utilizing phobias, real liminal spaces, fictional liminal spaces and turning this into something very interesting. And something that I think many people can relate with. Let me drop it. One last thing. And this is interesting. I thought this was an interesting crossover. So in 2003, this gentleman came Parsons. He launched a video series called The Oldest View. And it's basically a serialized CGI horror web series. And what it does is it moves away from these liminal spaces.